Concern regarding removal of sourced content and author attribution: Reply

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::::::::::::::::::::::::::Furthermore, the claim that the Times of India (TOI) does not provide specific attribution is factually false. The TOI, a high-tier WP:RS, explicitly states that the song "was written by the 16th century Lord Krishna devotee and poet, Meera Bai." By dismissing a newspaper of record and physical label records from EMI Pakistan (1977) in favor of a digital archive (Rekhta) whose 1995 dating is widely disputed as a re-publication rather than an origin, the editor is engaging in WP:CIRCULAR reasoning.
::::::::::::::::::::::::::Furthermore, the claim that the Times of India (TOI) does not provide specific attribution is factually false. The TOI, a high-tier WP:RS, explicitly states that the song "was written by the 16th century Lord Krishna devotee and poet, Meera Bai." By dismissing a newspaper of record and physical label records from EMI Pakistan (1977) in favor of a digital archive (Rekhta) whose 1995 dating is widely disputed as a re-publication rather than an origin, the editor is engaging in WP:CIRCULAR reasoning.
::::::::::::::::::::::::::My edit is strictly neutral and policy-compliant: it does not claim exclusive authorship for either party but acknowledges the song is rooted and inspired by Mirabai's devotional themes—such as the pining of the Gopis and the dissolution of self in "Aap bani main Shyam"—while allowing the Tufail Hoshiarpuri adaptation to coexist. To remove the Mirabai lineage entirely based on a flawed chronological interpretation would be to ignore established cultural reporting and physical recording history in favor of Original Research. [[User:Dmc51|Dmc51]] ([[User talk:Dmc51|talk]]) 18:16, 27 February 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::::::::::My edit is strictly neutral and policy-compliant: it does not claim exclusive authorship for either party but acknowledges the song is rooted and inspired by Mirabai's devotional themes—such as the pining of the Gopis and the dissolution of self in "Aap bani main Shyam"—while allowing the Tufail Hoshiarpuri adaptation to coexist. To remove the Mirabai lineage entirely based on a flawed chronological interpretation would be to ignore established cultural reporting and physical recording history in favor of Original Research. [[User:Dmc51|Dmc51]] ([[User talk:Dmc51|talk]]) 18:16, 27 February 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::::::::::I would like to clarify that I am not engaging in synthesis or personal interpretation, and I respectfully disagree with the characterization that WP:NOR or WP:SYNTH is being violated here. The changes being discussed were made specifically to correct earlier unsourced content that had presented Mirabai authorship without reliable references. Previous versions of the article contained attribution added without citation, and such material was later corrected to align with Wikipedia’s verifiability requirements under WP:V and WP:RS.
::::::::::::::::::::::::::It is also important to note that repetition of a claim across media outlets does not automatically establish verification if those references ultimately trace back to earlier unsourced Wikipedia content or circular reporting. Wikipedia policy does not allow circular sourcing (WP:CIRCULAR), and therefore multiple news mentions that do not independently verify authorship cannot be treated as conclusive evidence.
::::::::::::::::::::::::::Regarding chronology, I am not attempting to reconcile unrelated timelines or create a personal hypothesis. The timeline referenced is based on officially available publication metadata. The verified release available here — https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eYSaHXXFIBU — includes official description information indicating the recording details. Editors are encouraged to review the description directly, where the recording information is explicitly stated. This is being used only to verify documented recording chronology, not to infer authorship beyond what sources explicitly confirm.
::::::::::::::::::::::::::Performance dates, publication dates, and archival documentation can coexist without contradiction, and aligning them using officially stated metadata does not constitute synthesis when the information is directly present in verifiable sources. The intention is simply to ensure that article content reflects sourced information already documented in official records rather than unsupported attribution.
::::::::::::::::::::::::::The correction therefore does not remove viewpoints arbitrarily but restores the article to a reliably sourced state consistent with WP:V, WP:RS, and WP:NPOV. If independent reliable sources explicitly confirming Mirabai authorship are available, they can certainly be evaluated; however, until such verification is provided, attribution should remain grounded in sources that directly support the claim. [[User:CiteArchitect|CiteArchitect]] ([[User talk:CiteArchitect|talk]]) 18:16, 27 February 2026 (UTC)


== Restoration of broken links and request for discussion before major changes ==
== Restoration of broken links and request for discussion before major changes ==

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